Wednesday, January 16, 2013

That Time I Talked About Guns

Earlier this morning, I saw that Neely posted a blog post about how she, as a liberal, disagrees with the "liberal view" of gun control. I was really interested in the post, since y'all know I'm so politically minded, and wanted to write a response to her post.

I grew up in a small Southern town. People hunted on a regular basis. My babysitter even had a huge fun closet full of them sitting in their living room. My family is conservative, and my dad owned (and still has) a rifle in his closet “to protect us if anyone tries to hurts us.” It wasn’t anything that I wasn’t familiar with. 

When the tragedy at Columbine happened, I was only in the 5th grade. I remember very clearly the administrators talking to us about what to do if a similar situation happened to at our school. I was a senior in high school when the shooting at Virginia Tech happened, about to leave for college only months later. I was terrified, thinking that something like that could happen to me when I left for college. It hit home for me.

I guess my main thing that I didn’t agree with was the point where she said people were trying to make guns illegal or take them away from people. I like to think of myself as pretty well versed with what’s going on in the world and political discourse, so I’m totally open to rebuttals here. But I don’t remember seeing anything about people trying to take away guns or make them illegal. At least not handguns anyway. 

The New York legislation that was passed yesterday included new and improved background checks, which I don’t know if anyone could argue are a bad thing. I know that people aren’t keen on the idea of regular citizens being able to buy military grade guns. I don’t see the problem in that. Why do ordinary citizens need such powerful weaponry?  No one is trying to take away anyone’s right to bear arms. (While we’re on the topic of a right to bear arms, we need to think about the context of the law. Think about the difference in weapons from 1790 and today. It’s a major difference.)

Only a few minutes ago, President Obama signed 23 executive orders to help gun violence, including increasing access to mental healthcare. In essence, the President is calling for universal background checks on anyone buying guns, a restore on a repealed ban on "military style assault weapons," a campaign on gun safety, and much more. I've seen a few tweets from people saying that it's going to happen no matter what is put in place. Does that mean we should stand by and watch this happen time and time again?

Also, she mentioned in the post that guns don’t kill people, people kill people. I totally agree with that to some extent. But don’t you think that guns greatly enhance the extent to which people can be killed? On the same day of the Newton tragedy, a man in China entered a school and attacked 22 people with a knife. None of them were killed.

Again, the main point that I’m trying to make is: I’m liberal and I do not think that guns should be illegal. But no one is trying to do that. Should guns be regulated more strictly than they have in the past? Absolutely. Should we just stand by and say, "there's nothing that can be done. These people will get it anyway they can"? Absolutely not. Standing by and allowing it to happen again without making any sort of movement towards a better and safer future for our children is one of the worst things that can be done.


I'd love to hear your thoughts on the topic, but please keep in mind that any disrespectful comments will be deleted.

19 comments:

Sar said...

Your political posts are my favorite. Just FYI.

Love how respectful you are.

gladley said...

As a Brit living in the USA I have a completely different cultural background when it comes to guns. Learning the different approaches is something I'm curious about, even just to enlighten me on how and why US culture is the way it is.

Anyway, I thought you might be interested in this infographic in the US Guardian today: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/interactive/2013/jan/15/gun-laws-united-states

The way the data is presented is, in itself, particularly illuminating.

Amy @ A Glimpse of the Gouglers said...

You worded this wonderfully and I will say that I agree with you completely as a moderate conservative. I believe that military assault weapons do NOT need to be in the hands of an average citizen! Regulation is key here. Love your political posts. They always bring up good conversation and are very thought provoking!

Abbey said...

Love this response. Thanks for being eloquent.

Meg Cady said...

Very well worded my dear!
I see a lot of different sides of this debate, it's so not a black and white issue... the absolute HARDEST!

I enjoyed your commentary and you I also always enjoy you, but you already knew that!

Jodi said...

I so agree! I'm liberal and wants better gun laws but don't think that they should be banned all together. There has to be a happy medium. Let's ban the assault weapons and crazy bullets but let hunters keep hunting. . . it is such a complication topic. I don't think it has to be liberal or conservative. It is about safety. And it is about mental health. I work in a medical hospital and everyday the majority of my consults are for patients w/ mental health issues NOT medical issues. There is just no place for them to go to get help. Very sad. We need to have better mental health services to help people. Let's hope we see this happen in our lifetime!

GREAT post!

Lindsay @ Trial By Sapphire said...

Great post, Whit. You know that we see eye to eye already. My one additional note would be that people need to be a bit more cautious about the mental health portion of the argument. While I do think that more and higher quality mental health services need to be made available to all people, I don't think that many of these gunmen are mentally ill. I consider all murderers mentally ill, but most of these people seem to be very intelligent and functioning in the world. In most cases, I don't know that mental health services are something that they would have sought to been referred to. Does that make sense? I've read a lot of articles recently that make these points much more eloquently than I just did. ;)

jess said...

I absolutely love this. New follower. :)

Kelly B. said...

I 100% second Lindsay's comment.

Saying it's all guns, or all mental health, or even attributing it to mental health too much, isn't right. It's a combination of multiple factors but that doesn't mean we should not attack them one at a time.

The argument that "Criminals will always get guns" just like they get drugs is idiotic. That's no reason to not pass laws. Also, it'd provide the state with stronger repercussions when people who are NOT supposed to have guns, are found with them. Before today, a convicted felon could get a gun at a gun show with no background check. How is restricting this a bad thing?

Nobody's trying to take law abiding citizen's guns (even though I also think nobody has any business owning an assault rifle, other than the military) and boo hoo if law abiding citizens have to jump through a few more hoops to get a gun. That's a price I, and all the victims of gun violence, would be happy to pay.

Also, to coincide with your note about 1790: the 2nd amendment provides for a well regulated MILITIA-- as in, ARMY. The founding fathers hardly intended for it to be applied to citizens. That's what a creative interpretation has gotten us though, so it's silly to quote the 2nd amendment with your "right" to bear an assault rifle.

I could go on for days, but this is a good post on that topic. Exactly how I feel.

Annie said...

I agree with you! I also think it's important to think of the historical context of the 2nd amendment: British tyranny & the Revolutionary War being fought on our soil. The last time we fought a war on our soil was over 150 years ago, so the immediate, original intention of the 2nd amendment no longer applies. However, I do agree with the right to bear arms, but I'm not at all opposed to having that strictly regulated.

lo @ crazy ever after said...

What a great post to be my introduction to your blog. You, my friend (is it ok if I call you friend?), are spot on. Good for you for so eloquently stating everything you did.

Rachael SparkFire said...

I love reading what you have to say!
I have been checking into your blog for a while and just finally followed!

I really hope you follow back so we can stay in touch!

Your background is so catchy btw

Robin said...

I don't think guns should be totally banned because if you want to commit a crime, you don't have to have a gun. Timothy McVeigh used a bomb.

Sara said...

Great post!!! I lean more conservative but I support more gun regulations. Though I want the right to bear them should I choose I want the process to be thorough.

I do think if someone wants to cause harm they will. Maybe it won't be as deadly as a shooting but if someone is determined to go on a rampage they will find a way.

Betsy Transatlantically said...

ditto to so many of your commenters - and thank you to you for writing this! the only thing I'd add to your response to Neely is this:

yes, bad people commit crimes with guns. but the answer isn't to give ALL OF THE PEOPLE more guns. the answer is to make it harder for bad people to get their hands on the guns in the first place.

I really don't think the responsible gun owners have anything to fear from the new proposals and executive orders. I think that what many of them are afraid of is where they think those changes might lead - but that's paranoid. as you say, no one is trying to make all guns illegal.

Lauren said...

I wish I could like this post a million times over! You put my exact thoughts into words lol. Conservatives on my Facebook and Twitter feed have been driving me crazy with this "nobody will take away my guns" nonsense. Nobody is trying to do that! lol It's so frustrating

http://commonscentswithlauren.blogspot.com

elle at wishingoodluck said...

So true! You said it so much better than I could have. The political side of things so often seems focused on extremes - banning guns for example - when there are so many other in between issues to consider, like background checks and a greater focus on mental health issues. Wonderfully written!

roxanneblogs said...

Yes! I feel like a lot of the responses have been so reactionary and "don't take the guns" - but no one has actually moved to take guns. In fact, a lot of gun owners actually support many of the moves to make background checks more comprehensive, and other measures. Gun control does not equal no guns.

Faith said...

Amen! Amen! Amen! Completely agree!!

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